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how to go car free

How To Go Car Free – An Analysis Of My Friend’s Car Situation

By: Kevin Ha

Last Updated on April 12, 2023 22 Comments
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Recently, a friend of mine asked me what he should do about his current car situation and as we got to talking about it, it occurred to me that our discussion might make a good blog post that could examine whether someone seemingly car-dependent could make the dramatic move to going totally car-free.

Here’s where he’s at right now. Three years ago, his old car from high school finally broke down, and, needing a new set of wheels, he decided to opt for a lease. His lease comes to an end this year, so he’s now at a forced decision point. Does he buy a car? Does he get a new lease? Or can he forget the car altogether and go with a car-free lifestyle?

First, a caveat. I’m not a car expert by any means, so take this as a post of someone on the internet just thinking out loud (and trying to think outside the box). This isn’t meant to be a judgmental post either. We’re just thinking about how someone can go car-free.

There are two things I definitely know are true about cars though: (1) cars are expensive to own, maintain, and use; and (2) most people underestimate how much their car really costs. 

Breaking Down His Car Costs  

To get a sense of how much my friend’s car costs, let’s take a look at what he pays for his car. Each month, he pays the following fixed costs: 

  • Car Lease: $278 per month
  • Parking: $75 per month
  • Insurance: $60 per month

In addition to these fixed costs, he also has variable costs with gas, typically around $40 to $60 per month. There are probably other variable costs that come into play as well (think things like parking tickets if he gets any, costs to park in different parking lots, etc). Most of the time, maintenance costs would also be on this list, but my friend’s car lease actually has the dealer paying for maintenance, so he’s never had to pay for maintenance for his car other than oil changes, which aren’t very expensive. He’s also not going to go over his lease mileage amount because he doesn’t drive very much, so that isn’t a cost he has to deal with.

Adding it all up, we’re looking at $413 per month of fixed costs for my friend to have a car, plus an average of about $50 per month for gas, or a total of about $5,556 per year in vehicle costs. Compared to your average person, this actually isn’t so bad – your average person likely spends closer to $8,000 or $9,000 per year on their car. Still, his car is his second-largest expense outside of his housing costs. 

Years ago when he was trying to figure out what to do about his car, my advice to him, given what I knew about his lifestyle, was to try going without a car at all. He’s in a good position to go car-free. He’s a single guy that lives in a downtown area. His office was only a 5-minute walk from his apartment. Then a few years later, his office went entirely remote, which meant he didn’t have a commute at all. Most of his friends aren’t too far away either. And the places that he tends to go to aren’t very far away either. 

Really, he had two reasons why he wanted a car: (1) he plays golf almost every day and golf courses aren’t easy to get to without a car, and (2) there’s a dog park that he likes to bring his dog to that isn’t in walking distance. 

Strategies To Go Car-Free 

The issue my friend had with going car-free was that he wasn’t sure how to handle most of his daily trips that might require a car. He lives in a mid-sized city, so the public transit options are okay, but they aren’t great.

Most of us in the financial independence world would tell him to grab a bike and start biking. However, biking isn’t an option for him because of a legitimate health issue (it’s a reason to remember that being able to bike is a privilege that not all of us have, and health issues aren’t always something you can control). Things, however, have changed a lot over the past few years that make going-car free for him much more of a possibility. 

Before moving on with why I think he can go car-free, here’s his current situation: 

  • He’s a single guy with no kids. 
  • He lives downtown, with most things within walking distance. His friends typically meet up at places by him, but if he is going to someone’s house, he could do that using electric micromobility vehicles.
  • Groceries can be delivered to him (which he prefers to do, anyway). Otherwise, the grocery store is still easily within biking or scooter distance. 
  • He can take his dog to the dog park by his house, which is where he’s been going lately anyway. 
  • He plays golf almost every single day. This year, he got a membership at a country club which lets him play golf anytime he wants as part of his membership dues. This means he’s not traveling around playing different golf courses anymore, but rather is playing all of his golf at this one course. This golf course is about 4-5 miles from his apartment, so easily bikeable or scootable. 

So with that said, here’s how he could go car-free:

1. Day-To-Day Transport: Use An E-Bike Or Electric Scooter.

The landscape of going car-free has changed dramatically over the past three years due to the rise of electric micromobility options. Back when I first told my buddy to try going car-free, the world of electric micromobility was much less developed. Most of us didn’t even know that electric scooters existed and e-bikes were still very much a niche product. It’s only in the past year or so that I’ve started to regularly see e-bikes in the streets, for example.

Having electric micromobility options completely changes the game for many people thinking about going car-free. As much as a regular bike can act as a replacement for a car, it still requires a decent amount of effort to use. I’ve been biking as my primary commuting option for years, but I know that most people can’t do that.

An e-bike removes that energy barrier. It basically takes no energy to use a pedal-assist e-bike. I’d say it’s somewhere between the energy you’d use to stand and the energy you’d use to walk.

And these e-bikes are fast. My e-bike goes 20-25 mph at an energy level for me that is on par with walking really slowly. The world really opens up to you at those speeds. A 10-mile trip at 20 mph takes about 30 minutes to complete.

Which brings me back to my friend. The first thing he’s been thinking about doing is getting a high-powered electric scooter to serve as his day-to-day transportation. In the electric scooter world, you basically have two types of electric scooters – you’ve got the ones that are more like toys that go 15 mph, and then you’ve got more expensive scooters with big wheels and shocks that can go 30-40 mph. A couple of years ago, my friend bought a $500 Glion scooter and started using that for many of his short-distance trips. It’s worked out well for him, allowing him to use it to cover shorter distances in the 1 to 4-mile range.

But a high-powered scooter could really open the world up to him even more. Some scooters are more expensive than others, but he’s thinking about a scooter in the $1,500 range (as a comparison, my e-bike from RadPower cost $1,500). A lot of people balk when they hear how much an e-bike or really good scooter costs, but when you think about it as a car replacement rather than just something to use for fun, it makes a lot more sense. Even an old, crappy car will cost you more than $1,500. 

A scooter like this can go 30 mph, making it very much a car replacement when it comes to getting you from one place to another.

2. On-Demand, Short-Distance Transport: Use Bikeshare Systems (Preferably An Ebike System).

I’ve been a big fan of bikeshare systems for years and in a post-pandemic world, I think they’re even more important as a mass-transit alternative. 

One of the really positive developments in the bikeshare space has been the addition of e-bikes. The issue with bikeshare has always been one of accessibility – most people simply cannot commit the energy to riding a regular pedal bike. E-bikes solve this problem by removing that energy problem.

Here in Minneapolis, our bikeshare system has released hundreds of e-bikes that, for members, currently costs 5 cents per minute to ride (or $3 per hour). When the promotional pricing comes to an end, it’ll cost members 10 cents per minute to ride (or $6 per hour). A bikeshare membership in Minneapolis is $75 per year. This is extremely affordable and makes it so that bikeshare can basically act as an on-demand mass transit alternative for most people. 

In my friend’s city, his bikeshare system went full electric, with rates of $20 per month for unlimited 60-minute rides. That seems like a pretty massive bargain to me in order to have access to your own on-demand transit that requires basically no personal energy utilization.

3. When A Car Is Absolutely Necessary: Use Ubers, Car Rentals, and/or A Carshare System. 

Finally, he might need to use a car in some situations, but that can be taken care of through a variety of means. Since he’s a single guy, most of his car needs are for when he’s going out with friends somewhere and can’t walk to the destination. Ubers or Lyfts easily cover that problem (if he’s partying, he can’t drive anyway). 

Long-distance trips are covered by car rentals, especially since those are trips that he can plan out in advance. He also has a lot of Chase Ultimate Rewards points that he’s accumulated via credit card signup bonuses, which means that he could use points to book any car rentals that he needs.

The last category of car usage is on-demand car trips where an Uber might not make sense. In some cities, this can be addressed via free-floating carshare systems. These are systems where you can walk up to the car, rent it using your phone, drive to your destination, and then park it anywhere. Washington DC, for example, has a system called Free2Move that works like this. Years ago, my city of Minneapolis had Car2Go, which I thought was an amazing service and worked perfectly for if I absolutely needed a car for a quick trip somewhere. Unfortunately, in a lot of cities, these free-floating carshare systems are shutting down (presumably because they’re not making enough money).

My friend’s city does have Zipcar, which could make potential sense. Zipcar is a traditional carshare system where you can rent a car on demand by the hour. These aren’t free-floating systems though, so you have to park the car in the parking space where you got it from. My issue with these types of systems is that I’ve never been exactly sure what the use case is for a traditional carshare system since it seems like a pretty expensive way to travel if you have to go somewhere and then bring the car back.

Final Thoughts 

When we add it all up, the potential of my friend going car-free could be interesting. Right now he basically only uses his car to drive to the golf course and maybe to get food every once in a while. He’s spending a lot just to have a vehicle that can complete those two tasks.

Going car-free could free up the $453 per month he spends to have his car (he wouldn’t have to pay for parking or insurance at all since he’d have zero cars). He’d likely spend $1,500 on a better scooter and attempt to use that as his primary mode of transportation. A bikeshare membership at $20 per month could be helpful, but not absolutely necessary. A Zipcar membership could also be potentially helpful, but again, not absolutely necessary. Every Uber or Lyft trip would probably cost $10 to $20, but it’s unlikely he’d have to use Uber or Lyft very often (especially now when his friends aren’t partying).

One thing that is worth taking away from this is to think about your own car use and how you use your car. Can most of your trips be replaced with an electric micromobility option? If you’ve never tried an e-bike or scooter before, you probably don’t understand how much distance you can cover on these vehicles.

Here’s something I’ve been telling my friend though. Why not just give the car-free thing a try? The worst-case scenario is he ends up discovering he needs a car, so he’s back in the same position anyway. The best-case scenario is he discovers getting around with a scooter is more fun and much cheaper than driving around in a car.

At a minimum, it can force him to think much more about the places he goes and the ways to get there – something that many of us don’t do enough of.

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By: Kevin Ha

Filed Under: Biking, Financial Independence, Saving

Reader Interactions

Comments

  1. A.K. says

    August 3, 2020 at 12:56 am

    I recently made the switch to being car-less, even though I live in the suburbs. My job is now remote and I realized I rarely need a car: Instacart takes care of my biweekly grocery trips (which saves me cash since I’m not impulse buying), I do all my shopping online and on the rare occasion when I do need to run errands, I can Uber. It works out cheaper than the cost of owning a car.

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    • Financial Panther says

      August 3, 2020 at 3:18 pm

      Sweet! One thing I’ve noticed is that ebikes can work in the suburbs! A lot of suburbs also seem to have huge sidewalks you can bike on without anyone walking, so you don’t even have to be in the street with people. Get yourself an ebike and you’ve basically got a vehicle that makes it easy to get to most places, even if you’re in the burbs.

      Reply
  2. zzzzzz says

    July 30, 2020 at 6:52 pm

    The Zipcar should work fine as long as the pickup/return location is within walking distance, or scooter distance if he gets a scooter.

    If he has a scooter, he can scoot to the car location, put the scooter in the car, run his errands, return the car, then scoot back home.

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    • Financial Panther says

      August 3, 2020 at 3:11 pm

      Yep, he lives downtown and there’s a Zipcar literally a block away.

      Reply
    • stretch851 says

      August 7, 2020 at 5:43 pm

      I actually did a modified version of this in Minneapolis to save on parking. I only ever used my car once or twice a week, so instead of parking it downtown($150/mo), I parked it across the river in a neighborhood for free and would take a lime scooter to it and back when I needed to use my car. Ended up selling the car but definitely still saved a lot of money while I did that

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  3. Ashley Shelton says

    July 29, 2020 at 10:40 am

    Now that we spend so much more time at home because of the pandemic, I’ve definitely been rethinking how much and how often I drive my car. I have four kids and a dog and a huge SUV. We now make it an adventure to ride or bike to the grocery store or to run errands. I think I’ve filled my gas tank maybe twice since March. Not quite car free yet, but it’s fun to imagine the day where we might be able to do it!

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  4. Jasper Stojanovski says

    July 29, 2020 at 10:01 am

    I’m all for the e-bike option. I’ve never rode one, but it sounds interesting.

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    • Financial Panther says

      July 29, 2020 at 10:05 am

      Definitely try one. It’ll change your life!

      Reply
  5. Chris @ Mindful Explorer says

    July 28, 2020 at 12:18 pm

    Here in our province of British Columbia, the government this past week just increased the rebate program for e-bikes. Now if you purchase an ebike they will give you a $1,050 rebate for making the investment to a cleaner better mode of transportation. Heck they are offering businesses $1,700 if they consider buying e-cargo bikes.

    As for an awesome video that was done here locally, check out this one from Levi Hildebrand on his YouTube channel about going car-free (this only really works in major urban centres)
    https://youtu.be/o95fsV8IKvQ

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    • Financial Panther says

      July 29, 2020 at 10:03 am

      That is amazing. You can basically get an ebike in BC for 500 bucks then.

      I’m a subscriber to Levi Hildebrand. Really enjoy his stuff.

      Reply
  6. Caroline at Costa Rica FIRE says

    July 28, 2020 at 8:48 am

    We are a 1-car family and for a long time didn’t have a car — but that was in NYC where it’s exorbitant and unnecessary. Agree 100% that many people underestimate the costs of owning — maintenance adds up.
    That said, we take a lot of road trips, and leasing, renting or car-sharing would be more expensive given how many miles we put on. We bought a new car in 2017 and already put 130k miles on it! For us, it makes sense to buy new (less maintenance, <1% financing) given how hard we are on our car. So there is no one-size-fits-all in the car/ no car or even new/used or buy/lease decision .

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    • Financial Panther says

      July 28, 2020 at 9:52 am

      That’s a lot of miles in 3 years! I used to do more road trips, but once I started travel hacking, I stopped doing road trips and just opted to fly everywhere.

      My buddy only had 30k miles for his lease and he didn’t hit 30k miles, so his level of driving is very low I feel like for the amount he’s paying to have the car.

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  7. Kevin Morison says

    July 26, 2020 at 9:07 pm

    As a middle-aged empty-nester living in a major U.S. city, I have often thought about ditching the old family car — actually a minivan. It’s all paid off, and we usually drive only about 30-40 miles a week, even lessduring the pandemic. But I still like to go to the grocery store (I don’t trust anyone else to pick out my produce or find the right sale item), and like your friend, I try to get to the golf course every once in a while. Maybe when the old minivan goes, I’ll cut the auto cord. In the meantime, I enjoyed your analysis.

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  8. TS Gant says

    July 25, 2020 at 11:28 pm

    The no car scenario takes me back to my college days when my car was broken down on the side of the road. I remember having to walk in bad weather back to my dorm room. BUT, it does sound like a decent alternative to go with a car, maybe just not for me.

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    • Financial Panther says

      July 26, 2020 at 8:12 am

      You just bundle up and keep on moving in bad weather!

      Reply
  9. Lindsey says

    July 25, 2020 at 4:08 pm

    We never realized the obvious and hidden costs to owning a vehicle until we moved to a remote Alaskan village. You could only fly in or out, since it was not on the road system, so no thought of bringing a vehicle with us. We each lost over 30 pounds from having to walk every single place we went, and suddenly we had money left in our account—no gas, no insurance, no upkeep. It was wonderful!

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    • Financial Panther says

      July 26, 2020 at 8:10 am

      That’s awesome and very interesting. So even in a tiny village, it’s possible to go car-free?

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      • Lindsey says

        July 26, 2020 at 4:15 pm

        We are talking a place with 160 people, one sort-of grocery store, a post office, a school, and a gas station that is mostly filling snow machines. Amazon Prime was a god send when it suddenly appeared! There was no cell phone service until a few years ago. Before that everyone kept the CB on so you could hear when someone wanted you to come over (or more likely, “John, we are serving dinner. Come home.”)

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  10. Daniel Durham says

    July 25, 2020 at 10:10 am

    There advantages and disadvantages to both. The thing is transporting his dog around with him on a scooter is an issue.

    It seems logical for him to not really need a car for much else though. I’d say he needs to do a cost analysis on the price comparison of ubering against other forms of transport and also factor in weather conditions throughout the year.

    The other option he could consider if buying the car at the end of the lease and keeping it. Once it’s paid off all he’d have to pay for is insurance and gas. Since he doesn’t do much driving he’d keep the miles low and minimize the cost of maintenance. Since he’s lease the car from new, he know’s how well it’s been maintained and driven which is a bonus. There’s already depreciation on the car price so he could probably negotiate a good buy price.

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    • Financial Panther says

      July 26, 2020 at 8:10 am

      Right. I transport my dog using a dog carrier for my bike, but my buddy can’t really bike.

      Weather is the other factor, but in the winter, he’s not really going a lot of places as it is.

      I really think some combination of a electric micromobility option + carshare membership + Uber could cover him for most of his use case scenarios at a lower cost than insurance, gas, and parking (parking is the big problem for him because if he has a car, he’s going to need to park it somewhere since street parking isn’t available in his downtown area).

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      • Daniel Durham says

        July 26, 2020 at 9:09 am

        I work in down town Chicago so I understand the parking issue. I have to pay $72 each check to pay in the employee lot at the hospital I work at. It’s a pretax deduction but costly none the less.

        With all of the financial turmoil going on in the economy right now, he has the opportunity to negotiate a great buy price at the end of the lease. Otherwise he can turn it in and give the no car thing a try for a while.

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    • zzzzzz says

      July 30, 2020 at 6:49 pm

      If he keeps the car, he’ll also have to pay for car registration, which IME runs several hundreds of dollars per year.

      He’ll also have his $75/month parking expense.

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